under the romney-ryan plan, the changes they are advocating what happened in 10 years from now. i am sorry, but that is not good enough. we cannot sit iran and we 10 years before we make important decisions -- sit around and wait tenet years before we make important decisions. there is some criticism appear on the dais today about how these plans will be reduced and the impact it will have on medicare advantage plans, but would it -- once the plants -- to begin with in 2003 and passed in 2004 as part of the medicare modernization act and the new prescription drug plan? is that right? is that replants came from? >> yes. there was a predecessor program referred to as the risk program, which went back to the 1980's. the program built upon that. >> do you recall sitting here today whether that legislation passed that also called for a higher reimbursement levels for ma plans, whether any of that was paid for in the 2004 bill? >> i do not. >> the answer, and i think everybody on the dais understands, it was not. was a major piece of legislation, the largest expansion of entitlement s